1. Todd Keith09/28/2005 14:15:45
Homepage: http://www.beknazar.com/

WOW 4 time international champion of the breed!
The time we saw him in Moscow he was placed 10th of 10 stallions.
http://www.maakcenter.org/ENG/Moscow2001/showres.html
Someone is blowing some smoke......
Todd

2. Allegra Steck09/28/2005 14:57:25

I myself enjoyed the comment about him being the first purebred A-T born on North American soil. This reminds me of the whoppers I find on SIM game sites, which generally have me rolling on the floor laughing. Someone forgot to do their fact-checking !

3. Jessica 09/28/2005 19:54:08

I am not laughing. To hear such stories from people that have visited Akhal-Teke breeders in NA is no fun at all. Obviously the breeder/owner her/himself had been lied to or the blogger that reviews the visit was been lied to. This is not a SIM game this is reality about the competition amongst breeders. A more open and professionally managed breed association national and international would make sure that facts about breeding stallions were easy to check.

4. Lisa Belhage09/30/2005 02:03:40

There is also a less sinister possibility. Since we have no idea the age of the blogger, she (I'm assuming it is a "she") could also very well simply be mistaken in her facts. Perhaps she didn't listen to the facts, couldn't really remember them right, or simply made them up to sounds more impressive.

I don't think there is automatically a need to assign a dishonest/evil motive.

-Lisa

5. Petra10/05/2005 09:35:26
Homepage: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/akhalteke

I agree with Lisa, it could be just a lack of information or not correctly interpreted information.
Despite the fact he was 10 ot 10 in breeding show, he won the riding competition for young horses (judging gaits).

6. Jessica 10/06/2005 11:00:42

I wonder what the blogger, that actually went to the stud farm to buy a horse there, misunderstood, was it fact that;
The stallion was a pure bred Akhal-Teke, that he was the only approved stallion in Canada, that there are only three approved stallions in NA, that he was imported from Russia, that he was 4 times international champion, that there was an Akhal-Teke mare called Gulddjahan imported from Russia, that there was a Teke-Irish draft cross that was the only of the kind in the world, that the foal Spidey was the only pure bred AT foal born on NA soil.

7. Beth10/20/2005 04:39:10

BE AWARE !!!! Just to let anybody know. These Ahal-Teke Horses plus papers, plus a few more horses where stolen from another farm in Alberta while the actual owner was abroad. Then the current "owner" desided to breed them, and be aware of her, she is a big liar. So donīt buy any horses from her, they are not hers! She currently is involved a court battle with the real owner of the horses. She is in big trouble. I know this for a fact. PLEASE LET ANYBODY KNOW!!

8. Beth10/20/2005 04:44:46

PS: I am sure the blogger who visited her farm has no idea. She was probably lied to.

9. Beth10/20/2005 05:04:41

PPS: PETRA - you actually have the link to this persons website on your homepage...so be aware....

10. Beth10/20/2005 06:05:19

PPS: ... and so do you (b)Allegra Steck(b/), you have the same link to this person on your website.... be aware... despite what she might tell you....

11. Jessica 10/20/2005 10:25:17

Beth, this sounds like very serious accusations against the owner of Murgab. If they are true it is good that people are warned but if not they can seriously hurt the owner. I do hope that this blog will increase the transparency within the breed but if you accuse people of stealing or lying I think I will have to ask you at least for your email address so that we can contact you. Another suggestion is that you ask the owners you imply had the horses stolen from them , to add a comment here to verify your comments.

12. Beth10/20/2005 14:22:16

Since this is in court right now, i do not want to get involved since it might hurt the real owner. But i think people should know, since the end up having to give back the horse they bought at the end of the legal battle . I am very close to the owner, thatīs why i know lots about it. But he bought the horses himself in Russia. The mare and the stud. I donīt know how to proof to you that i am telling the truth. The only thing i can tell you is that the woman who sold the horses to him in Russia was visiting us a couple of weeks ago. And i have been following this for almost a year and it just drives me crazy how she can get away with it so far.... but not for much longer i hope.
I donīt want to leave my email - for all i know she could be reading this - and we are not supposed to discuss this out of court. Ask me anything...if i can somehow proof i am telling the truth, i will. But i donīt want to reveal to much about myself just yet. But i will ask him to put a blog in, i donīt know if he will... I will talk to him and find out how we can proof it to you guys .......

OK... he just gave me something.

Calgary Court - Alberta - Canada

On August 17. Justice Peter Martin granted an order restraining her from advertising, selling or moving the horses or any activity for commercial gain.

13. Ganna10/21/2005 04:10:53
Homepage: http://www.golden-horses.net

These horses were bought from us, I'm aware about the today situation, but I think that we should let the court make its decision and do not discuss things.
Regarding the other blog - to me it looks like written by very young people, unexperienced with the AT breed. It can not be considered as reliable information by any adult person, especially by an AT breeder..
Some correct info about Murgab from first hands - he was #10 in Moscow 2001 among young stallions, usually there are more than 10 good horses in a ring, so being awarded a diploma of III digree is not too bad. He was #1 at the competition among young horses for the quality of movements.

Ganna

14. Beth10/21/2005 07:14:43

GANNA IS RIGHT, the horses were bought from her and we should leave it at that. But since that person is still advertising the horses while she is legally not supposed to (we keep finding ads all over the net).. makes you feel helpless and ...makes the owner very worried that she might find a buyer and sell them, and they could end up anywhere.
BUT i also think people should be aware of it, if they are thinking of purchasing an AT from her.
BTW: GANNA that other girl is a friend of this person who right now has a Irish Sport Horse on lease from her which also belongs rightfully to the owner of the two ATs. So, god knows what she is been telling her.
O.K. we will leave it at that now. This was just a big FYI for everyone looking for a AT to buy in Canada or the US.
GANNA: I really like your buckskin mare.
FYI ido have the permission from the owner to write all this - he has seen the blog